NPfIT minister reveals Lorenzo costs and payments to BT and CSC

Mike O’Brien, the minister in charge of the NPfIT NHS IT scheme, has replied to questions put by Conservative MP Richard Bacon who sits on the Public Accounts Committee. These are his questions and O’Brien’s answers:



NHS: ComputerSoftware

Mr. Bacon: To ask the Secretary of State forHealth how much local service providers have been paid for the (a) set-up costs and (b) running costs of each of the Lorenzosystems deployed in NHS trusts; and what his latest estimate is of the averagecost per site of deploying the Lorenzo software system. [299006]

Mr. Mike O’Brien: The average agreed deploymentcharge per site for full deployment of all bundles of service of the Lorenzosoftware system, when complete, is £6.468 million.  The total of paymentsmade to the local service provider, to 30 September 2009, for deployment(set-up) activity to date for Lorenzo products is £434,400. In the same period,service charge (running cost) payments have totalled £27,117.

Mr. Bacon: To ask the Secretary of State forHealth what his most recent estimate is of the highest number of live concurrentusers of the Lorenzo software system at NHS Bury (a) at any one time and (b) on any one day.[299192]

Mr. Mike O’Brien: As at 9 November 2009, thehighest number of live concurrent users logged into the Lorenzo software systemat the NHS Bury Primary Care Trust (PCT) at any one time is 93. This occurred onthe day the PCT went live with the system, on 3 November 2009.

 

NHS: Information and CommunicationsTechnology

<Mr. Bacon: To ask the Secretary of State forHealth what the projected lifetime costs are in respect of each contractor underthe National Programme for IT in the NHS; and how much each such contractor hadbeen paid on the latest date for which figures are available.[299189]

Mr. Mike O’Brien: Relevant information iscontained in the following table.

National programme for IT by keyelements: Projected lifetime costs and expenditure to 31 March2009

£million

Corecontracts

Projected lifetimecosts(1)

Expenditure to 31 March2009(1)

London

1,021

326

South

1,104

133

NorthEast

1,035

276

East

930

237

North West and West Midlands

1,042

271

Spine

889

791

<N3Network

554

554

Choose andBook

144

133

Amount retained byAccenture(2)

110

-52

Notes:
1.Figures in the two columns are not directly comparable. The projected lifetimecosts are shown at 2004-05 prices, and final outturn will be higher due toinflation in subsequent years. Those for expenditure to 31 March 2009 areresource outturn figures.
2. In 2006, Accenture made arrangements tovoluntarily novate the company’s contract to another existing supplier under theprogramme. Of the £179 million Accenture had received to that point the companyretained £110 million for work completed. £52 million represents the value, foraccounting purposes, of moneys repaid as at 31 March 2009.

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